<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"/></head><body style="font-family:Geneva,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 12px;">Dear Gert, > When this policy was initially written, there was a) no experience with > sub-allocations, so I was careful, and b) worries that this might lead > to LIRs sub-allocating all their space out the window, and then ending > up in lengthy discussions with the NCC hostmasters - so a barrier was > built in that was reasonable for the time and the envisioned usage > ("customers that run ISP-ish businesses and need larger chunks of > addresses to handle their customer allocations themselves"). > While we still do not have much experience with sub-allocations, the > warning "if you hand it all out, you might not get new space easily, > so be wary" is moot - it's now "if you hand it out, there will not be > any more space, period!", and LIRs should have noticed *that* by now... <div> I think for now all LIRs know that IPs in RIPE finished and they understand what they do if they will sub-allocate all IPs. And may be it make sense. For example, in Russia you need 1,5-2 years from incorporation until receving all permissions (licenses, etc.) from goverment to provide telecommunication services. In this case company can sub-allocate all space for some time.</div> <div> </div> -- Kind regards, Alexey Ivanov </body></html>