Hello Gert,<br><br>may I quote myself?<br><br><table class="cf gJ" cellpadding="0"><tbody><tr><td class="gF gK"><table class="cf acY" cellpadding="0"><tbody><tr class="UszGxc undefined"><td class="gG"><span class="gI">from</span></td>
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<span class="ik"><img class="de QrVm3d" id="upi" name="upi" src="images/cleardot.gif" height="16px" width="16px"></span>Randy Bush <<a href="mailto:randy@psg.com">randy@psg.com</a>><br></span></td></tr><tr class="undefined">
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</td><td class="gH cY8xve"><br></td></tr></tbody></table><div id=":124" class="ii gt"><div id=":123">Hello,<br><br>I am glad to see that I am not alone.<br><br>However, I am still worried that several people voted for a free beer.<br>
<br>OK, free beer is nice if somebody is ready to pay it ;-(), but this case is a different one.<br>
<br>The problem is that the limits of the technology can not be changed by voting and concensus declaration. <br><br>AND the whole policy addresses global issues. The policy proposal was a very bad message for other regions.<br>
<br>Liberty to pollut (in this case: the global routing table) is not a liberty for me. <br><br>Thanks,<br><br>G�za<br><br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div class="im">On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 7:02 AM, Randy Bush <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:randy@psg.com" target="_blank">randy@psg.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div>> I would certainly hope that these objections will not be ignored<br>
> but considered addressed.<br>
<br>
</div>the concerns (which careful reading of the thread would show that i<br>
shared with geza) were not 'addressed' in the sense of overcome. �</blockquote><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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randy<br>
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</font></blockquote></div></div></div><br><br>These were very clear messages, I think.<br><br>Thanks,<br><br>G�za<br><br><br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 5:30 PM, Gert Doering <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:gert@space.net">gert@space.net</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi,<br>
<div class="im"><br>
On Thu, Jan 05, 2012 at 04:52:41PM +0100, Turchanyi Geza wrote:<br>
> I definitely declared that I still think that no concensus was reached.<br>
<br>
</div>Please re-read the mails you have sent.<br>
<br>
We needed something very clear, like "no, we do not have consensus" or<br>
"yes, this is good enough for (rough) consensus" here.<br>
<br>
You made very clear that you do not like the proposal, but that does not<br>
automatically make it a statement of non-consensus - there was one e-mail<br>
which very clearly stated:<br>
<br>
�"I don't like the policy as I think its a bad idea [...], but [...] so it<br>
� seems that we are in fact at a consensus *but* [...]"<br>
<br>
so "not liking the proposal but still thinking the WG has reached rough<br>
consensus on it" is quite possible.<br>
<br>
Since your mails didn't contain clear statements of consensus or not,<br>
they have not been counted as either.<br>
<div class="im HOEnZb"><br>
Gert Doering<br>
� � � �-- APWG chair<br>
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