<HTML> <HEAD> <TITLE>Re: [address-policy-wg] The final /8 policy proposals, part 2</TITLE> </HEAD> <BODY> (cut down on the CC list) Dear Masataka, Would you please enlighten us by sharing how this scheme would work – I’m intrigued. Given the current rate of consumption I don’t see how we could possibly not hit the last /8. If you think the single act of mandating NAT will make the rate of IPv4 consumption stop on a dime it would have happened long ago and at the same time would not change the non-technical aspects of the problem at all. Regardless of how exactly you do it, adding NAT (or any other form of complexity) inevitably adds cost. LIRs on the whole are strongly cost-driven, especially in the current financial climate; investing in more kit than strictly required is a no-sell business case. Just using up more IPv4 is cheaper in the short run than any other alternative, so it will be the preferred way for a lot of people. Can we please have the discussion about what to do with the last /8 at the risk of not ever needing the bit of policy that comes out of it? The least thing it does is showing the outside world that we, as a community, care. Best, Remco On 08-07-09 15:46, "Masataka Ohta" <<a href="mohta@necom830.hpcl.titech.ac.jp">mohta@necom830.hpcl.titech.ac.jp</a>> wrote: <BLOCKQUOTE>Gert Doering wrote: > Please stick to the topic of *this* discussion. Even with reclamation > efforts, eventually we will reach the last /8, Why? Assuming reduction of address space consumption by mandating NAT, I can't understand how the last /8 could be reached before IPv4 will be replaced by something not likely to be IPv6. Could you elaborate? > and *this* discussion is > only covering the rules for the last /8. I don't think it off topic to discuss whether there will be the last /8 or not. It is a fair counter argument against a policy proposal on the last /8 to say there won't be the last /8. Masataka Ohta </BLOCKQUOTE> This email is from Equinix Europe Limited or one of its associated/subsidiary companies. This email, and any files transmitted with it, contains information which is confidential, may be legally privileged and is solely for the use of the intended recipient. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender and delete this email immediately. Equinix Europe Limited. Registered Office: Quadrant House, Floor 6, <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" /><st1:Street w:st="on"><st1:address w:st="on">17 Thomas More Street</st1:address></st1:Street>, <st1:address w:st="on"><st1:Street w:st="on">Thomas More Square</st1:Street>, <st1:City w:st="on">London</st1:City> <st1:PostalCode w:st="on">E1W 1YW</st1:PostalCode></st1:address>. Registered in <st1:country-region w:st="on">England</st1:country-region> and <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Wales</st1:place></st1:country-region> No. 6293383.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p> </body> </HTML>