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<p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-US>Jeroen,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-US>The clash is about:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-US>* RIR-space<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-US> + guaranteed globally
unique<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-US> + <b>CAN</b> be routed on
the internet<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-US> - you will have to do
paperwork and pay for it<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-US>My point of view: RIR-s space is for
routing on the Internet. Not for private use! So it MUST be routed on the
Internet. And private networks should invent their own rules, personally I will
not object that as far as it is not affect my access to public part of the
Internet!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-US>-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Jeroen Massar [mailto:jeroen@unfix.org] <br>
Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 12:37 PM<br>
To: Potapov Vladislav<br>
Cc: david.freedman@uk.clara.net; nick@inex.ie; frederic@placenet.org;
address-policy-wg@ripe.net<br>
Subject: Private address space in IPv4 and IPv6 [was something irrelevantly
titled]</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>poty@iiat.ru wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>> Maybe you are right, but it doesn’t prove that
is IS good in IPv6 <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>> world too. I can’t understand, why I should
think about such private <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>> matters (and indirectly fund this) and count
it as arguments in the <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>> RIPE’s policy development? If the allocation
will never be announced <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>> to the public network called the Internet, then
it’s not the scope of our thinking!<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>IPv4:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText> * RFC1918<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText> + just grab<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText> - everybody in the world uses it, lots of
clashes<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText> - not suitable for interconnecting ever to
other networks<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText> - generally implies a lot of NAT at one
point in time<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText> * RIR-space<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText> + guaranteed globally unique<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText> - you will have to do paperwork and pay for
it<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>IPv6:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText> * ULA, RFC4193<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText> + nobody to talk to, calculate your own<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText> - never to be used anywhere on the Internet<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText> - not 100.00000% sure that it is
globally unique<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText> (also see
http://www.sixxs.net/tools/grh/ula/ for a 'registry' which<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText> would make it at least
"unique" when everybody uses that)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText> - could imply NAT, though that should not be
used with IPv6<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText> * RIR-space<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText> + guaranteed globally unique<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText> + can be routed on the internet<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText> - you will have to do paperwork and pay for
it<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>You can pick what you want, but heed the warnings.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>Greets,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText> Jeroen<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p>
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