[address-policy-wg] IPv4 waiting list policy

>My suggestion would be along the lines what was proposed on the APWG
>meeting already - earmark these /24s as non-transferrable, ever.

I don't think it is a good idea to split the IPv4 addresses into different
types, transferable and non-transferrable. it puts those newcomers in a
disadvantageous position compared to the older members, it is not fair and
doesn't fix anything in long term.

Regards,

Arash




On Wed, Dec 8, 2021 at 1:56 AM Gert Doering <gert at space.net> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On Tue, Dec 07, 2021 at 02:29:15PM +0000, Erik Bais wrote:
> > As WG chairs we would like to see the position of the WG on the topic
> and what could be seen as a possible solution.
>
> As a member of the WG, I do share the sentiment that the intent of the
> "IPv4 runout" policies have been "ensure that late comers to the game
> can have a bit of IPv4 space, to number their IPv6 translators", and
> not "grab some space for free, and sell it for more money elsewhere".
>
> I do not think this can be fixed on the AGM level ("one legal entity
> can only have one LIR account") - we've been there, in the rush to /22s,
> and all it does it "make people hide behind shell companies", so in
> the end, the address space goes out anyway, but registry quality suffers.
>
> Trying to make the NCC require even more paperwork isn't going to stop
> those that want to game the system, but will impact everyone else by
> making the NCC more annoying to deal with.
>
>
> My suggestion would be along the lines what was proposed on the APWG
> meeting already - earmark these /24s as non-transferrable, ever.
>
>
> Consequences:
>
>  - there is no more financial incentive to "get one cheap, sell it
> expensive"
>
>  - if you need space to run your business, this is exactly what it is
>    there for - you can still sell your business (with the /24), you
>    just need to keep the LIR account.  But that's as with other
>    business assets.
>
>  - if you want to merge multiple LIR accounts, all having their own
>    /24 - then you need to keep around these accounts, or return some
>    of the /24s.
>     - corrolary: if you use these /24s to number your IPv6 translators,
>       then renumbering this translator into "your other /24" is actually
>       not very hard.
>     - corrolary2: If you use the /24s to directly number your customers,
>       you missed the boat already (wearing my RIPE unicorn t-shirt today).
>
> Gert Doering
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