[address-policy-wg] IPv4 waiting list policy

Hi,

On Tue, Dec 07, 2021 at 06:25:21PM +0100, denis walker wrote:
> Many years ago I questioned why we ever invented a market for address
> space 'that no one owns' when we had a perfectly good system of
> allocating address space based on need and when no longer needed was
> returned to the RIR to be re-allocated...for free. I was told 'don't
> be silly, people will still sell the address space but not record the
> transfers in the RIPE Database'. So the quality of the registry
> diminishes. What is going to stop people selling these 'never to be
> transferred' allocations and not recording the transfer in the RIPE
> Database? I am sure some back door dealings can be arranged to keep
> the LIRs active that have the allocations registered and obfuscate the
> fee payments to confuse the RIPE NCC. Have companies developed some
> sense of morality in recent years?

If the LIR fee is still to be paid, this is commercially not very
attractive - and as such, should stop the business model "open a LIR,
get a /24 for <x> EUR, sell it for <5*x>" nicely.

Note that we always acknowledged the need for a block of addresses
to "change hands", by mergers & acquisition.  Having a formal transfer
policy was basically just accepting that people would hide this in
a company sale otherwise.

My proposal is actually to disallow transfers *including* disallowing
M&A transfers on these.  It MUST stay in the LIR it was requested by,
and if the LIR closes, it MUST be returned.

Buying a "company with the LIR" would still be possible, of course
(and I do not see a way to disallow this, it's like MS trying to 
disallow selling used windows licenses), but "... and then transferring, 
and closing the LIR" would not.

Gert Doering
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