[address-policy-wg] Application for AS number

Dear Aled, Gert, all,

Please allow me to provide some clarification.

I can confirm that the RIPE NCC does take future deployments into account and AS Numbers can be assigned in advance.

Regarding this specific case, there was a miscommunication that we have now clarified directly in the request (which is still ongoing).


Kind regards,

Nikolas Pediaditis
Assistant Manager Registration Services & Policy Development
RIPE NCC



> On 7 May 2019, at 14:30, Gert Doering <gert at space.net> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> On Tue, May 07, 2019 at 01:18:14PM +0100, Aled Morris via address-policy-wg wrote:
>> I'm in the process of helping a startup ISP get RIPE membership and
>> resources and have hit against a little bit of poor wording in the AS
>> guidelines RIPE-679, specifically:
>> 
>> *A network must be multihomed in order to qualify for an AS Number.*
>> 
>> The application for an AS number has been delayed because the NCC analyst
>> working on the ticket is claiming the ISP has to be *already multihomed*
>> before an AS can be issued.
>> 
>> This interpretation doesn't make any sense to me.  Surely the intention *to
>> become multihomed* should be the requirement for obtaining an AS number?
> 
> Speaking as WG participant and long time LIR contact, this sounds funny 
> indeed.  And none of my AS requests so far have been for networks that
> were *already* multihomed (because, well, how can you be without an 
> AS number...).
> 
> 
>> I don't even see how you can be properly multihomed if you don't have an AS
>> number.  Are we supposed to implement some kind of NAT multihoming first?
>> 
>> Can we look to change the wording in RIPE-679 to make this clear?
> 
> Now, speaking as WG chair, we can just toss the ball at Marco/Andrea
> from the NCC RS department and ask them to comment on this, and whether
> this is an issue of policy wording, misunderstanding, or possibly
> miscommunication (language barriers...).
> 
> We can also spend some time at the next meeting to discuss this in
> the WG meeting - that's what our time is for, have face to face chats
> to clarify intentions, interpretations, and possibly ways forward...
> 
> Gert Doering
>        -- multi-hatted individual
> -- 
> have you enabled IPv6 on something today...?
> 
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