[address-policy-wg] Application for AS number

I strongly take position that at least one AS any company may have in
advance. It's nothing, but it's make further pain is void.

On Tue, 7 May 2019 at 16:55, Hansen, Christoffer <christoffer at netravnen.de>
wrote:

>
> On 07/05/2019 14:18, Aled Morris via address-policy-wg wrote:
> > I'm in the process of helping a startup ISP get RIPE membership and
> > resources and have hit against a little bit of poor wording in the AS
> > guidelines RIPE-679, specifically:
> >
> > *A network must be multihomed in order to qualify for an AS Number.*
> >
> > The application for an AS number has been delayed because the NCC analyst
> > working on the ticket is claiming the ISP has to be *already multihomed*
> > before an AS can be issued.
> >
> > This interpretation doesn't make any sense to me.  Surely the intention
> *to
> > become multihomed* should be the requirement for obtaining an AS number?
> >
> > I don't even see how you can be properly multihomed if you don't have an
> AS
> > number.  Are we supposed to implement some kind of NAT multihoming first?
> >
> > Can we look to change the wording in RIPE-679 to make this clear?
>
> Pointing to RFC 1930 and pointing out you will want to move
> - from "Single-homed site, multiple prefixes"
> - to "Multi-homed site, multiple prefixes"
> requires you be assigned an ASN.
>
> You can ask the the NCC analyst, if it is alright to provide them with
> agreements with existing upstream provider A and future upstream
> provider B is sufficient to be assigned the ASN(?)
>
>         -Christoffer
>
> ----
>
> https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1930#section-5.1
>
>    *    Single-homed site, multiple prefixes
>
>         Again, a separate AS is not needed; the prefixes should be
>         placed in an AS of the site's provider.
>
>    *    Multi-homed site
>
>         Here multi-homed is taken to mean a prefix or group of prefixes
>         which connects to more than one service provider (i.e. more than
>         one AS with its own routing policy). It does not mean a network
>         multi-homed running an IGP for the purposes of resilience.
>
>         An AS is required; the site's prefixes should be part of a
>         single AS, distinct from the ASes of its service providers.
>         This allows the customer the ability to have a different repre-
>         sentation of policy and preference among the different service
>         providers.
>         This is ALMOST THE ONLY case where a network operator should
>         create its own AS number. In this case, the site should ensure
>         that it has the necessary facilities to run appropriate routing
>         protocols, such as BGP4.
>
>
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