[address-policy-wg] Application for AS number

Hi, all!

Since time when AS was obtained to time when network will become multihomed
may passed some time, up to several years.
It's mean several kilometers of cables should be buried in the ground
before it happens. In some cases. Or the same onether kinds of tasks should
be done.
It's not mean that some guys, who put on their eyes pink glasses, should
decide for all other that network should already multihomed from scratch.
No!
Network should be multihomed by design - it's enough.


On Tue, 7 May 2019 at 15:30, Gert Doering <gert at space.net> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On Tue, May 07, 2019 at 01:18:14PM +0100, Aled Morris via
> address-policy-wg wrote:
> > I'm in the process of helping a startup ISP get RIPE membership and
> > resources and have hit against a little bit of poor wording in the AS
> > guidelines RIPE-679, specifically:
> >
> > *A network must be multihomed in order to qualify for an AS Number.*
> >
> > The application for an AS number has been delayed because the NCC analyst
> > working on the ticket is claiming the ISP has to be *already multihomed*
> > before an AS can be issued.
> >
> > This interpretation doesn't make any sense to me.  Surely the intention
> *to
> > become multihomed* should be the requirement for obtaining an AS number?
>
> Speaking as WG participant and long time LIR contact, this sounds funny
> indeed.  And none of my AS requests so far have been for networks that
> were *already* multihomed (because, well, how can you be without an
> AS number...).
>
>
> > I don't even see how you can be properly multihomed if you don't have an
> AS
> > number.  Are we supposed to implement some kind of NAT multihoming first?
> >
> > Can we look to change the wording in RIPE-679 to make this clear?
>
> Now, speaking as WG chair, we can just toss the ball at Marco/Andrea
> from the NCC RS department and ask them to comment on this, and whether
> this is an issue of policy wording, misunderstanding, or possibly
> miscommunication (language barriers...).
>
> We can also spend some time at the next meeting to discuss this in
> the WG meeting - that's what our time is for, have face to face chats
> to clarify intentions, interpretations, and possibly ways forward...
>
> Gert Doering
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> --
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