[address-policy-wg] PA ??? life after death

On Tue, 12 Mar 2019, Maxim A Piskunov wrote:

> Hello, Gert, Community.

Hi,


> IPv4 - it's not outdated, exact about IPv4 we are talking. Not about IPv6.
> And we discuss way to continue support and effective use IPv4 while IPv4 will be not needed anymore.

Yes, IPv4 is still the dominant Internet Protocol version.


> And while we still need IPv4 I wake up members to solve issues:
> 1. End-user should have independence of LIR
> 2. Independence of LIR may be obtained by conversion PA to PI and passing addresses to end-user. (/24 or greatest).
> 3. Even end-user using address from PA and address block /24 or greatest, we should change policy to allow conversion PA to PI for allocated to end-user's addresses if LIR placed under deregistration procedure.

Independence of LIR can be obtained by an end-user by... becoming a LIR 
itself...!



> Community, please support my proposals.

It's not as simple as that... :-)

The process is defined here... 
https://www.ripe.net/publications/docs/ripe-710

As of today, there are 3 proposals on the table:
https://www.ripe.net/participate/policies/current-proposals/

2018-06 RIPE NCC IRR Database Non-Authoritative Route Object Clean-up
2019-01 Clarification of Definition for "ASSIGNED PA"
2019-02 Reducing IPv4 Allocations to a /24


Regards,
Carlos


> >I don't think anything built by Cisco in the last 10 years falls into the
> >"IPv4 in hardware, IPv6 in software" category anymore.  Maybe even 15 years.
> >
> >Instead of spreading outdated information, better spend the time working
> >with those vendors that still ship broken implementations, or take your
> >money elsewhere.
> 
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