[address-policy-wg] PA – life after death

Thanks, Nikolay.

Also I should append that for stability of Internet end-users should be in
safety.
It's mean that never-never-never resources can not be under stress if they
currently in use!
Part of that - RIPE NCC should not have a rights to terminate SSA without
holding status for arbitration period.
End-user SHOULD NOT PANIC. Official Notification of Termination - it's
reason for panic.
Of course, if we change policy for keeping used resources even LIR placed
under termination procedure, happiness will come.


On Wed, 6 Mar 2019 at 23:52, Nikolay Gorstkin <it at gcxc.net> wrote:

> Hi Sander
>
> I will try to explain briefly.
>
> - Did the NCC end the membership for violation?
>
> Yes, the RIPE NCC is talking about violations, but we do not agree with
> that. We had no chance to prove our innocence.
>
> Recently, the RIPE NCC sent us - Official Notification of Termination. As
> they say they terminate the SSA in accordance with 9.4h.
> I will describe the details in the morning in the request for arbitration.
>
> Thank.
>
> --
> *Nikolay Gorstkin*
>
> 6 марта 2019 г., в 23:10, Sander Steffann <sander at steffann.nl> написал(а):
>
> We did not convert to PA. But unfortunately they did not know that it was
> necessary to keep Sponsoring with a third party.
>
>
> I'm a bit confused. What exactly are you doing?
>
> - Is the legal entity that was an LIR stopping? If the legal entity
> disappears then the resources go back to the NCC
> - Is the legal entity cancelling its RIPE NCC membership? In that case the
> resources can still be assigned to the legal entity and you should be able
> to find another sponsoring LIR
> - Did the NCC end the membership for violation of policies or non-payment?
> In that case: yes, you don't have any rights to those resources anymore
> - Something else?
>
> Without any mor information we're just guessing, which isn't very useful.
> I urge you to talk to the NCC to work this out, and if you can't work it
> out there is always the arbitration procedure... I don't think this is
> something that can be solved on APWG though.
>
> Full disclosure: I'm an arbiter on the NCC arbitration panel
>
> Cheers,
> Sander
>
>
>
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