[address-policy-wg] question about IPv4 legacy and transfers - should we convert legacy to non-legacy with transfers?

Hi,

El 17/7/19 18:08, "address-policy-wg en nombre de Radu-Adrian FEURDEAN" <address-policy-wg-bounces at ripe.net en nombre de ripe-wgs at radu-adrian.feurdean.net> escribió:

    On Mon, Jul 15, 2019, at 14:02, Tore Anderson wrote:
    > In any case, and to be perfectly honest, this rationale reads to like 
    > petty jealousy to me - «I can't do X with my RIPE ALLOCATED PA, so I 
    > don't want others to be able to do X either».
    
    Hi,
    
    I see the situation a little differently:
     - if my understanding is correct, you can benefit from pretty much same (or most of) services with you legacy space as with your PI/PA space, however you don't really have the same obligations. Correct me if/where I'm wrong.
     - do you consider something normal that somebody "owns" numbers, just because somebody, someday told them "those are yours" ? I don't. For the moment I have to live with the fact that in many cases (not all) this is what is happening, but I would pretty much appreciate a change.
    
    However, pushing for a conversion from legacy to "RIR system" looks very delicate. Not sure that legally it can be forced (probably in some countries the regulator may be able to do something, but I wouldn't count on that). As for "do it for you own good", while this may not work today, some day everybody would better get into the RPKI bandwagon, at which point the RIRs would be in a strong position to "kindly" ask holders to convert the legacy resources to "RIR system". If the will id there, which is an entirely different issue.

-> I don't think this is "delicate" at all. Nobody is being *forced* to do that. If you have legacy, you can do transfers outside the system and nobody can oppose to that. However, please read the complete email from Mike (yesterday), I don't think nobody noticed it ... and they key think here is the protection of the "buyer", which is secured if the addresses are converted to non-legacy.

    
    -- 
    Radu-Adrian FEURDEAN
    
    



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