[address-policy-wg] question about IPv4 legacy and transfers - should we convert legacy to non-legacy with transfers?

On Wed, Jul 17, 2019 at 06:01:44PM +0200, Radu-Adrian FEURDEAN wrote:
>I see the situation a little differently:
> - if my understanding is correct, you can benefit from pretty much same (or most of) services with you legacy space as with your PI/PA space, however you don't really have the same obligations. Correct me if/where I'm wrong.

Correct, and the rationale for that is that it's better for the
Internet to have these resources documented somewhere. 

> - do you consider something normal that somebody "owns" numbers, just because somebody, someday told them "those are yours" ? I don't. For the moment I have to live with the fact that in many cases (not all) this is what is happening, but I would pretty much appreciate a change.

Leaving the inherent silliness of "owning" or "administering"
integers aside:

I own my car because "somebody, someday" told me (after money
changing hands, of course) "this is yours". The same applies to
the computer I'm writing this on. 
If you'd like to change this you're welcome to try and take them
off me and see how far you get ;)

>However, pushing for a conversion from legacy to "RIR system" looks very delicate. Not sure that legally it can be forced (probably in some countries the regulator may be able to do something, but I wouldn't count on that). As for "do it for you own good", while this may not work today, some day everybody would better get into the RPKI bandwagon, at which point the RIRs would be in a strong position to "kindly" ask holders to convert the legacy resources to "RIR system". If the will id there, which is an entirely different issue.

I don't think the RIRs should get into the business of extortion
any more than into theft. Nothing good can conceivably come off
that.

rgds,
Sascha Luck