[address-policy-wg] 2015-04 New Version and Impact Analysis Published (RIPE Resource Transfer Policies)

On Friday, October 21, 2016, Havard Eidnes <he at uninett.no> wrote:

> > What you say could be expressed (again it's a metaphor) like this:
>
> If you're interested in swaying the opinion in your favour you
> would do well by avoiding arguing by using metaphors or colurful
> paraphrasing, and instead argue the individual items you
> apparently so very much disagree with.
>
> I express my ideas the way I think and I don't give lessons to anyone.


> > As for the takeovers, it's not that I wouldn't get into details. My
> > previous employer has acuired probably over 100 other companies. Every
> case
> > was particular and some took years to integrate. You can not sell the IPs
> > before integrating their network.
> >
> > In all the situations, even when we know there was an agreement for
> > acquisition of company X, it wasn't absorbed overnight. The process is
> > complex and involves approvals from various authorities, integration of
> the
> > network, migration of customers and in the end you can draw the line and
> > mark as unused the as number, IPs, computers, etc.
>
> You conveniently side-stepped answering the case I described.  Note
> that I wrote "*solely* for the purpose of of getting a /22...".  In
> that case there would be no customers to move or networks to merge.  I
> would say it is incumbent upon you to justify that we should keep this
> loophole as wide as a truck in the policy.
>
> The 24-month holding period puts a damper on this avenue of abuse
> against the intention of the last /8 policy, and would put a little
> bit more longevity into the availability of the resources under that
> policy.  It may be that this diminishes your company's prospects of
> near-future income, to which I would say that basing your buisness on
> the abuse of something which is perceived as a common resource is
> perhaps not worthy of so much sympathy?
>
>
Again, unfunded personal attacks. Why do you have to analyze the person and
not the idea. Who gives you the right to accuse make such allegations and
what is the purpose of this ? Have I taken advantage of a loophole ? Just
let everyone know about it, like I did in regard to one of the chairs,
don't throw accusations just because you don't agree with me.



> Regards,
>
> - Håvard
>
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