[address-policy-wg] 2016-03 New Version and Impact Analysis Published (Locking Down the Final /8 Policy)

No, you are the one wasting my time and if anyone else has something to
tell to me I'll be available in Madrid starting tomorrow.  Please first
read carefully and try to understand what I wrote.

I never said Gert did something that was against any policy. Probably he
never did such things. But he clearly took advantage of the merger &
acquisition procedure and now he tries to close it through the policy
2015-04. Isn't this hypocrisy ?

But let's not mix the discussions. My main concern is that two policies
which are not properly discussed and approved by the community, which seem
far from having a consensus (as far as I can see) will most likely be seen
by the chair as perfect solutions that need to be implemented right away
and he will say that there is consensus even if it isn't.

I would remind you that it was another policy when Gert stepped down and
admitted that he wouldn't consider himself objective enough and let Sanders
take the decision. If he can't be objective enough from time to time, then
... just praise him, what else would you do ?

Ciprian


On Wed, Oct 19, 2016 at 4:18 PM, Enno Rey <erey at ernw.de> wrote:

> Ciprian,
>
> a simple inquiry with the search engine of your choice would have revealed
> there was a M&A process involved in the transaction below.
> Making false accusations is probably even worse then ad hominem attacks.
>
> Feel free to reply to me off-list or approach me in Madrid in case you
> intend to reply to this. That way you're only wasting my time.
>
> thanks
>
> Enno
>
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 19, 2016 at 04:10:59PM +0300, Ciprian Nica wrote:
> > > I guess we need the board of RIPE NCC to once in a while step up and
> > > block things when
> > > they see clear abuse.
> > >
> >
> > Here is the fact:
> >
> > % Version 1 of object "185.54.120.0 - 185.54.123.255"
> >
> > % This version was a UPDATE operation on 2014-04-17 16:59
> >
> > % You can use "--list-versions" to get a list of versions for an object.
> >
> >
> > inetnum:        185.54.120.0 - 185.54.123.255
> >
> > netname:        DE-TRANSNET-20140417
> >
> > descr:          TRANSNET Internet Services GmbH
> >
> > country:        DE
> >
> > org:            ORG-TA16-RIPE
> >
> >
> > % Version 2 of object "185.54.120.0 - 185.54.123.255"
> >
> > % This version was a UPDATE operation on 2014-07-30 15:41
> >
> > % You can use "--list-versions" to get a list of versions for an object.
> >
> >
> > inetnum:        185.54.120.0 - 185.54.123.255
> >
> > netname:        DE-SPACE-20140417
> >
> > descr:          SpaceNet AG
> >
> > country:        DE
> >
> >
> > 13 days after getting a /22 it was merged to Gert's LIR while he has a
> /22
> > which was never announced in the internet.
> >
> > Getting a /22 without ever announcing it for over 2 years plus getting a
> > /22 just to transfer it after a couple weeks, that's a fact.
> >
> > I have detailed it as you keep insisting. I'm not making any wild
> > accusations. These are the facts.
> >
> > So Gert did 2 actions which are against the spirit of this community.
> > Praise him as much as you want for it but don't shut me for bringing this
> > out.
> >
> > Support his anti-minority and personal feelings attitude if that's the
> kind
> > of chair you like but who gives you the right not to allow me to express
> my
> > opinion ?
>
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