[address-policy-wg] Comment on IPv4 depletion rate for proposal 2015-05

Hi,

On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 06:17:49PM +0200, Jérôme Nicolle wrote:
> When your business is growing and your network is running off address
> space' vapors, you're looking out for any oportunity to recover unused
> adresses (really easy to do when you only got a mere /22 : usually
> none). Then turn to the "Transfer (Blackmarket) Listing Service" and get
> indecent (side) offers for newly assigned prefixes put up for rent.
> 
> I don't need numbers to see there's something wrong : a market for
> adress space must NOT exist. The listing service must be dismantled, and
> no one should be able to profit from wrongly privatised public domain,
> period.
> 
> Unused inetnums must return to pool, and LIR's able to justify their
> needs _periodicaly_ should be able to get some more juice off the
> available pool, if they're also contributing to getting us all out of
> this mess by actively promoting IPv6.
> 
> Or am I a bit too commie for this discussion ?

Bring up a workable proposal to ensure that this can be done, and we'll
discuss it.  Emphasis on *workable*, ensuring that people will not be
able to just ignore the results and revert to lying to the NCC.

So far, pragmatism led to the acceptance of a market *provided* people
will update the registry information (so it is not a *black* market) - which
is vastly better for the overall system than "look, I have this unused /16, 
do you want to rent it for $vastsums, but do not tell anybody!".

As long as money can be made out of IPv4 space (read: people are going to
pay for it), it will be made.

If you all go to IPv6, IPv4 space will totally lose its value.  Just sayin'

Gert Doering
        -- APWG chair
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