[address-policy-wg] Comment on IPv4 depletion rate for proposal 2015-05

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On 10/05/16 13:12, Aled Morris wrote:
> I am troubled by the new members joining RIPE purely to obtain
> IPv4 address space.

I've still never seen any figures to support this, and thus it sounds
like FUD to justify some sort of IPv4 ransacking policy each and every
time I hear it.

Are there any figures to back up the assertion that "crooks" are
eating away at 185/8? I don't think I've ever seen any concrete
evidence of a widespread problem as yet.

It occurs to me that there will always be bad actors as long as we
desire the freedom to be able to acquire companies with Memberships
and pay only one set of Membership fees. I'm not actually sure if
abuse of this system should a problem for the RIPE community, the RIPE
NCC, or indeed a problem for the relevant authorities to investigate
(i.e. fraud).

Despite the possibility for abuse, I so far remain convinced that it's
worth keeping 185/8 as a reserved range for new entrants, and indeed
keeping any address space returned from the IANA for as long as we can
to - hopefully - help continue that policy long into the future.

There's nothing in 2015-05 that I find agreeable in this context,
particularly if we discount the assertion that abuse of the /8 policy
is harming depletion in a meaningful fashion.


(P.S. Not to point fingers at you directly, Aled; you're just the last
person to mention it in the thread before it changed direction.)

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Tom Hill
Network Engineer

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