[address-policy-wg] 2016-03 Discussion Period extended until 15 July 2016 (Locking Down the Final /8 Policy)

* Elvis Daniel Velea <elvis at velea.eu>

> Additionally, it would still apply retroactively and people which since 
> 2012 until 'yesterday' were allocated PA/transferable IPs (2 years after 
> the moment of the allocation) will end up with an allocation that is no 
> longer transferable.

Elvis, while there are valid arguments against this proposal, this is
not one of them.

If it was, then we could essentially just disband the AP-GW as pretty
much every single policy proposal ever made would "apply
retroactively". Including the ones that made various forms of transfers
possible in the first place; suddenly, many old non-transferable blocks
were "retroactively" changed to become transferable. 

Note that the RIPE NCC SSA says:

> Article 6 – Compliance
> 
> 6.1 The Member acknowledges applicability of, and adheres to, the RIPE
> Policies and RIPE NCC procedural documents. The RIPE Policies and the
> RIPE NCC procedural documents are publicly available from the RIPE NCC
> Document Store. These documents, which may be revised and updated from
> time to time, form an integral part of and apply fully to the RIPE NCC
> Standard Service Agreement.

A member who believes that transferability is an immutable and
everlasting property of address space has not read what they've signed.

If this proposal truly "applied retroactively" with regards to
transfers, it would have had to annul all the transfers *made prior to
its adoption* and stated the previously transferred address space was
to be forcibly returned to its original holder or the NCC.

> I do not like policy proposals that apply retroactively

Uhm, so what about your 2015-01 proposal then? That one "applied
retroactively" no less than this one.

Anyway. I withdraw my earlier objection to 2016-03. I'm not at all
convinced it's a good idea or worth the trouble, but if the community
really wants to go down this road I won't try to block the path.
Consider me neutral/abstaining.

Tore