[address-policy-wg] 2016-03 Discussion Period extended until 15 July 2016 (Locking Down the Final /8 Policy)

Hi.

What if some one opens business, become a LIR (pay money for it) then
understand that he need to close his business? But he cannot even sell
IPs because of this proposal. I think, the NCC can create special
section in LIR portal (there is already one) but there will be IPs
from the last /8 only. And when new LIR will request the resources,
the NCC will check it in LIR portal and suggest to take one of them.

It will save the last /8 for new members.

So I oppose this proposal.

2016-06-16 17:41 GMT+03:00 Dickinson, Ian <Ian.Dickinson at sky.uk>:
> Hi Remco,
>
> I'm still thinking this through, but a few questions jumped out at me, which imply there is still wordsmithing required.
>
> Given that the wording implies retroactively applying to everything previously allocated in 185/8, what will happen to those ALLOCATED FINAL allocations that have already been transferred? And where there are already multiple such ALLOCATED FINAL allocations within a single LIR?
>
> What is the policy for Merger & Acquisition with respect to ALLOCATED FINAL allocations as opposed to resource transfer?
>
> Ian
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: address-policy-wg [mailto:address-policy-wg-bounces at ripe.net] On Behalf Of Remco van Mook
> Sent: 16 June 2016 15:14
> To: Marco Schmidt <mschmidt at ripe.net>; address-policy-wg at ripe.net
> Subject: Re: [address-policy-wg] 2016-03 Discussion Period extended until 15 July 2016 (Locking Down the Final /8 Policy)
>
>
> Thank you Marco.
>
> Dear all,
>
> I would encourage everyone to carefully read this second version (and not just respond "no, still hate it, kill it with fire") as it is quite different from the first version.
>
> Basically the only restriction left is to disallow transfers on all "last /8 space"* going forward, and there is some language added to the policy that tries to raise awareness that if you just go and parcel out that entire allocation to endusers, you might end up feeling a little bit silly a couple of years from now.
>
> Looking forward to a positive discussion,
>
> Remco
>
> * any suggestions for a better title for this space are most welcome as well
>
>> On 16 Jun 2016, at 15:58 , Marco Schmidt <mschmidt at ripe.net> wrote:
>>
>> Dear colleagues,
>>
>> The Discussion Period for the policy proposal 2016-03, "Locking Down the Final /8 Policy" has been extended until 15 July 2016.
>>
>> The goal of this proposal is to ban transfers of allocations made under the final /8 policy.
>>
>> The text of the proposal has been revised based on mailing list feedback and we have published a new version (2.0) today.
>> As a result, a new Discussion Phase has started for the proposal.
>>
>> Some of the differences from version 1.0 include:
>> - Several restrictions have been removed
>> - Adds a recommendation that LIRs should conserve whole or part of their final /22 allocation for interoperability purposes
>>
>> You can find the full proposal at:
>> https://www.ripe.net/participate/policies/proposals/2016-03
>>
>> We encourage you to review this policy proposal and send your comments to <address-policy-wg at ripe.net>.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Marco Schmidt
>> Policy Development Officer
>> RIPE NCC
>>
>> Sent via RIPE Forum -- https://www.ripe.net/participate/mail/forum
>>
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