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Sergey
gforgx at fotontel.ru
Mon Jun 13 19:56:27 CEST 2016
You have already been pointed at: https://version6.ru/isp. My, perhaps too optimistic prognosis, is that we'll have IPv6 as a mainstream IP protocol by 2018. The figures of the current growth make me believe in this. On 06/13/16 20:04, NTX NOC wrote: > Agree, > > Almost in Russia, very big country with a lot of ISPs - I can't find any > big home ISP who gives IPv6 by default. > Most of ISPs get there Ipv6 blocks and play with it. But it's not so > good for customers. ISPs prefer still to get IPv4 blocks in additional > to the space they have but not to switch to IPv6. > > IPv6 will grow very slow in additional with IPv4. > So those protocols will live together for long-long time and we need to > spend some time for IPv4 as well. > > > Yuri > > On 12.06.2016 18:30, Arash Naderpour wrote: >> As an example in Iran there is only one exit point (AS12880 and AS48159 >> belongs to one organization) from country to global carriers controlled >> by government and as they have no LI platform yet on IPv6 there is >> simply no IPv6 service availability or possibility for Iranian service >> providers. >> >> >> >> There is no possibility to have a direct peering with a global carrier >> and as a result no native IPv6 connectivity yet. there is also no IXP >> in the country. >> >> >> >> As I said it is not about the difficulty of deploying IPv6, when it is >> not lawful and is not available to ISPs they have to stick with IPv4. >> Please refer to ripe ncc lab report and see some IPv4 import figures >> https://labs.ripe.net/Members/wilhelm/developments-in-ipv4-transfers >> >> >> >> Arash >> >> P.S last month they started advertising of the IPv6 blocks but no plan >> to provide a service to ISPs as yet. >> >> >> >> *From:*address-policy-wg [mailto:address-policy-wg-bounces at ripe.net] *On >> Behalf Of *Sergey >> *Sent:* Monday, 13 June 2016 1:10 AM >> *To:* address-policy-wg at ripe.net >> *Subject:* Re: [address-policy-wg] ***CAUTION_Invalid_Signature*** Re: >> IPv4 reserved space >> >> >> >> Global carriers provide that connectivity. What's the problem? >> >> On 06/12/16 18:08, Arash Naderpour wrote: >> >> I was not talking about a global carrier and if they can provide >> IPv6 or not, It was about availability and possibilities to have >> IPv6 connectivity everywhere. There are two different subject. >> >> >> >> Arash >> >> >> >> *From:*Dominik Nowacki [mailto:dominik at clouvider.co.uk] >> *Sent:* Monday, 13 June 2016 12:42 AM >> *To:* Arash Naderpour <arash_mpc at parsun.com> >> <mailto:arash_mpc at parsun.com> >> *Cc:* Alexander Koeppe <Alexander.Koeppe at merckgroup.com> >> <mailto:Alexander.Koeppe at merckgroup.com>; address-policy-wg at ripe.net >> <mailto:address-policy-wg at ripe.net> >> *Subject:* Re: [address-policy-wg] ***CAUTION_Invalid_Signature*** >> Re: IPv4 reserved space >> >> >> >> Not available ? >> >> >> >> Please name a global carrier that does not support IPv6. >> >> With Kind Regards, >> >> Dominik Nowacki >> >> Clouvider Limited is a limited company registered in England and >> Wales. 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If verification is >> required please request a hard-copy version. >> >> >> On 12 Jun 2016, at 16:40, Arash Naderpour <arash_mpc at parsun.com >> <mailto:arash_mpc at parsun.com>> wrote: >> >> And I don't understand why some people think that everyone can >> deploy IPv6, >> it is simply not available everywhere. >> It is not about difficulty, it is about possibility. >> >> Regards, >> >> Arash >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: address-policy-wg >> [mailto:address-policy-wg-bounces at ripe.net] On >> Behalf Of Alexander Koeppe >> Sent: Monday, 13 June 2016 12:09 AM >> To: address-policy-wg at ripe.net <mailto:address-policy-wg at ripe.net> >> Subject: Re: [address-policy-wg] ***CAUTION_Invalid_Signature*** >> Re: IPv4 >> reserved space >> >> I don't understand how much time and energy is being put into >> the discussion >> about keeping vintage IP alive. >> This time and energy would be better off spent in just deploying v6. >> It's just not that difficult. You just need to develop a >> stepwise approach. >> A one-shot would probably fail. >> >> -- Alex >> >> >> >> >> Am 11.06.2016 um 22:35 schrieb Gert Doering <gert at space.net >> <mailto:gert at space.net>>: >> >> >> >> Hi, >> >> >> >> On Sat, Jun 11, 2016 at 10:14:11PM +0300, NTX NOC wrote: >> >> About IPv6 - still now in Russia there are no Home ISPs >> who gives >> >> IPv6 by default to customers. Nobody wants it, nobody >> needs it. >> >> >> >> The "nobody needs it" is a misconception. 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