[address-policy-wg] 2015-05 Discussion Period extended until 13 May 2016 (Last /8 Allocation Criteria Revision)

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On 17.4.2016 г. 23:19 ч., Radu-Adrian FEURDEAN wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 17, 2016, at 10:42, Lu Heng wrote:
>> As I understand, more and more end user are becoming LIR as their ISP
>> refuse to give them IP, therefore it fundamentally changed the
>> very definition of LIR.
>>
>> The outbreak in the member mailing list last time reminds us how big that
>> group could be.
>>
>> What current ISP doing nowadays, instead of charging customer and apply to
>> RIPE for their customer's IP, they ask their customer come to RIPE to
>> become their own LIR and get their own IP then manage it for the customer.
>> In which, results what we see today, shipping companies, banks, even
>> airlines become LIR.
> Hi,
>
> This is exactly the point where the community failed. We keep saying
> that there is no more IPv4, and in the meanwhile more and more companies
> (non-ISP) discover that they can still get their needed IPv4 space, with
> the bonus of becoming provider independent. In the process of doing
> this, they "eat up" a /22 even if they only need a /23 or a /24 (or
> less, but that can't be routed).
>
> At the same time they still hear (for more than 10 years already) that
> IPv6 is coming, but still don't see it "coming close enough" (no, they
> don't really care about Google, FB, and Netflix - and if they do, it's
> more about how to block them).
>