[address-policy-wg] 2015-05 Discussion Period extended until 13 May 2016 (Last /8 Allocation Criteria Revision)

Hi

> On 16 Apr 2016, at 02:23, Gert Doering <gert at space.net> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
>> On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 08:27:00PM +0300, Momchil Petrov wrote:
>> The situation seems to me big-LIR don't allow new-LIR to grow up... is 
>> this cartel or something
> 
> There is no way a "new-LIR" can grow to, say, a /12 level that some of
> the big and old Telcos have - which is unfortunate, but we did not make
> IPv4 with these short addresses.
> 
Let me add something, if you have a business need /12 and your business can not even raise 10m in cash, seriously, I think there is something wrong with it.

So no, new people can still grow to whatever size they want, maybe 10-15% more investment than the "good old time", but anyone who have done investment would tell you in exchange for a successful business, 10-15% more is tolerateble. 


> To the contrary: *because* the policy is so restrictive, "new-LIR" can
> have a business at all - if we had no last-/8 restrictions, RIPE NCC would
> have run out of addresses over a year ago, so "nothing at all" for new-LIRs.
> 
> Which is more fair?
> 
> (And we have this restrictive policy because the *old* LIRs restricted
> themselves(!) from eating up all the space, leaving something for the
> new LIRs to come)
> 
> Gert Doering
>        -- APWG chair
> -- 
> have you enabled IPv6 on something today...?
> 
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