[address-policy-wg] IP addresses for Iran

Hello everybody,

I read all messages in this regard, and I think conversation is going off 
the road.
One individual, or one LIR may talk about their own opinion regarding the 
proposal.
Please do not extent the talk to all LIRs from Iran or any other region.
and I don't think that it is wise to stamp a technical proposal with 
political issues.
Are we talking about IPV4 and IPV6, or we are talking about how Iran is 
managing it's address space?

Kind Regards,
Saeed.


-----Original Message----- 
From: Jim Reid
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2015 5:43 PM
To: Shahin Gharghi
Cc: address-policy-wg at ripe.net
Subject: Re: [address-policy-wg] IP addresses for Iran

On 21 Oct 2015, at 14:49, Shahin Gharghi <shahin at gharghi.ir> wrote:

>> What's stoping Iranian LIRs getting an IPv6 allocation from the NCC?
>
> ​Iran has a lot of IPv6 allocation but can't announce any.

So the probem isn't getting or using address space, it's routing that space. 
This WG (and RIPE more generally) is not in a position to decide or enforce 
the peering and transit policies used by ISPs ad IXPs.

>> ​Even they can't buy IP from outside of country because of sanctions.
>
> Solving the sanctions problem isn't within RIPE's control.
>
> ​RIPE NCC can ease the process.I'm not sure it can. It would be up to the RIPE community to reach consensus 
> on a policy proposal which somehow eases Iran's sanctions problems. I 
> doubt a policy could have that effect. If you have some ideas about how 
> this could be done, please share them or submit a policy proposal which 
> does that.

> ​People mentioned Iran as instance, so I explained the situation. 
> Community has to agree that Iran and similar countries are a part of 
> community and they can see the proposals from their own view. ​ ​You are 
> talking about making IPv4 available in future, and one of the biggest user 
> of IPv4 in future is Iran or similar countries, so it seems we have to 
> look at them.

Of course Iran is part of the community. However when RIPE develops address 
policies here, we are supposed to consider the interests of the community as 
a whole and do the best (or least worst) for everyone. Current policy allows 
Iranian LIRs to get the same sized IPv4 allocations as everyone else. IMO 
they're no better off or worse off than any other LIRs in the RIPE service 
region who need to get v4 space from the NCC. 
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