[address-policy-wg] 2015-05

>> If RIPE runs out of IPv4 sooner it will not help switching to v6 faster.
>> It only means that the new entrants will have to buy the resources from
>> the market at prices which will be obviously higher.
>>
> 
> ​And what will happen if we run out of IPv4 later? People have to pay a lot
> of money while there are a lot of unused IPs in the world. Don't you think
> that's a good business for those got a lot of IPs and didn't use them?

RIPE NCC is doing a good job in my opinion shouting every time that
people need to move to IPv6 and that there's no more IPv4, while
preserving enough resources to "feed" newcomers for the following years.
That's the right way to do things, we should not focus on what happens
with RIPE's pool. That's just a small reserve and the era when millions
of IPs were handed out for free is gone.

>> Iran is a good example, as a country can be considered a relatively new
>> entrant. What has happened over there ? 0.05% IPv6 adoption rate
>> according to google stats and Iran is the #1 importing country of IPv4
>> resources.
>>
> 
> ​This is exactly why I'm supporting this proposal. Most of you have no idea
> about how bad the situation
>  is
>  in Iran. They need IP more than every country and they can't have even ONE
> IPv6. Even they can't buy IP from outside of country because of sanctions.

Not really, Iran has imported 2,174,464 IPs out of which 1,221,120 came
from Romania. I know a few things about the situation over there but if
the local rules/laws are wrong then it's up to you to change them.

>> I don't understand why there's still this confusion that if RIPE's pool
>> will be empty, many think there will be no more IPv4 available and
>> everyone will go the next day to IPv6. It's totally wrong.
>>
>>
> ​I agree with you but at least makes it faster.​

Who would benefit from that ? Not your country for sure. The market
prices for IPv4 resources can only go up once RIPE's pool is depleted.
The ones that would benefit are those that sit on piles of IPv4 and
push/wait for prices to go up as they are not satisfied with current
profits. I would benefit indirectly also but it's not my purpose to
drive prices up.

Ciprian