[address-policy-wg] 2015-01 Draft Document and Impact Analysis Published (Alignment of Transfer Requirements for IPv4 Allocations)

Hi,
> Therefore I must insist and please contradict me if I'm wrong. In my
> opinion the adoption of this policy will :
>  - increase membership fees
Based on what? Because would-be IP-hoarders and people hoping to gain by
abusing the policy to limit IPv4 usage will be incentivised NOT to keep
opening LIRs and by that not bring additional income to RIPE? I doubt
that not gaining from hoarders will increase cost for RIPE and therefore
its members ... last time I checked, RIPE's income was rather stable and
usually well on the black side ... why do you believe this policy change
will alter that?
>  - increase IPv4 address prices
... but only for companies unwilling to get bye with what they have and
push IPv6 deployment and growth ... of course this may put some strain
to newcomers, but imagine the strain on newcomers if they can't receive
ANY IPv4 from RIRs anymore because hoarders have ensured that RIRs don't
have any available anymore, thus requiring them to get their required
IPv4 address on the market for even higher prices ...
>  - help the last /8 pool become even larger
Measures for IP space conservation have ensured availability of
addresses over the last ~10 years - if sensible decisions about policies
cause push the frame further than previous measures have, I'd say: Job
well done! Hopefully, by the time the Internet disables IPv4 there are
still IPv4 addresses available for assignment by RIRs ...
> A policy is adopted today for today's situation. Personally I would not
> care what the original intent was, I would only focus on solving today's
> issues. I don't expect the original intent was to have a "last /8" pool
> that would just keep growing "forever".
An additional /22 you give out today because you don't see a problem
TODAY can't just be recovered tomorrow when a new LIR needs a /22 and
you don't have any available anymore ... that's why the community HAS to
think of tomorrow's problems instead of just living in the today!
> of some russians taking advantage and making a profit but I'm also aware
> that's just a small crumble and it won't affect our bread.
With the growing shortage of IPv4 addresses, prices will go up, making
even the currently discussed policy change unsuited to keep people from
gaming the system ... at current rate, the cost for a /22 network
through LIR registration is roughly at 2€/IP. The policy change raises
that to 4€ ... what if you can get 10€/IP? 150% profit for a /22 is a
pretty convincing business model ...

-garry