[address-policy-wg] 2015-01 Draft Document and Impact Analysis Published (Alignment of Transfer Requirements for IPv4 Allocations)

Jump Management is a legit business and I'm pround to say I represented
them in many transactions. They didn't hoard the last /8 and more
importantly they didn't hoard the pre-last /8, so please don't bring
them into discussion

Maybe at the next RIPE meeting I'll prepare an accurate presentation of
his business as it's probably unique around the world.

Ciprian



On 6/9/2015 7:42 PM, Petr Umelov wrote:
> But you forgot Jump Management SRL, who has made 
> 
> Attantion 1149 transfers
> 
> and there were blocks more than /22.
> 
> Yes, they aren't from the last /8, but may be RIPE will start to return unused blocks (during a year e.g.)? It will be more effectively.
> 
> 
> 09.06.2015, 19:33, "Ciprian Nica" <office at ip-broker.uk>:
>> On 6/9/2015 7:19 PM, Vladimir Andreev wrote:
>>>>  help the last /8 pool become even larger
>>>
>>>  It's not true. There is still possibility to open multiple LIR's for the same person (legal or natural, no matter) and then merge them all together.
>>>
>>>  So this proposal (by itself) is not able to prevent /8 exhaustion
>>
>> Puting an obstacle will probably reduce the "hoarding" so it would
>> probably grow a little more than without this.
>>>>  The only reason that I would sustain it for is the fact that I'm aware
>>>>  of some russians taking advantage and making a profit but I'm also aware
>>>>  that's just a small crumble and it won't affect our bread.
>>>
>>>  Please abstain from national attacks. It's bad style of discussion.
>>
>> As a RIPE community member I don't have anything against russians. I
>> would not call "hoarding" what happens today with the last /8 but here
>> is the statistics.
>>
>> +--------------------------------------------------------------+------+
>> | seller | /22s |
>> +--------------------------------------------------------------+------+
>> | Bulgakov Aleksey Yurievich | 31 |
>> | QuickSoft LLC | 30 |
>> | Julian Alberto Gomez Hernandez trading as "Adjenet Networks" | 5 |
>> | Abdulrahman Nassir Alahmari trading as SABAH | 4 |
>> | Al Safwa Al Saudia for Development Ltd | 2 |
>> +--------------------------------------------------------------+------+
>>
>> Theese are the only persons/businesses that sold more than 1 x /22 from
>> the last /8.
>>
>> It's obviously that the whole discussion started after noticing the
>> activity of the top 2, who happens to be from Russia.
>>
>> Ciprian
> 
> -- 
> Kind regards,
> Petr Umelov
>