[address-policy-wg] 2015-01 Draft Document and Impact Analysis Published (Alignment of Transfer Requirements for IPv4 Allocations)

Guten Tag,
> Hi!
>
> Fully support your arguments.
>
> 09.06.2015, 13:42, "Storch Matei" <matei at profisol.ro>:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I oppose this proposal, mainly because of the RIPE NCC's points of view
>> regarding this proposal. Reading the impact analysis, it is my understanding
>> that this policy will not make a real difference from the RIPE NCC's point
>> of view, and that if the rate of requesting new /22s remains the same, the
>> pool of available Ipv4 resources will last more than 5 years from now -
>> which from my point of view is a long time.
The 5-year-calculation is based on a linear growth - as v4 availability
will be more and more limited, there will most likely be more companies
looking to receive PI addresses (which aren't available anymore), which
will cause them to become an LIR for the sole purpose of receiving their
own address space. So without other effects of returned addresses, I
would imagine that timeframe to be more like 3 years in the end. Now
look at the uptake of IPv6 at both providers and end customers - do you
really believe that the Internet will be ready to go IPv6-only within
three years? I would love to see that, but I seriously doubt it ... so
anybody left at that point in time with only IPv6 addresses will be
f*cked ...
>> Also, this procedure of opening new LIRs benefits the current LIRs because
>> it finances the RIPE NCC, and will cause the membership fee to be lowered.
>> Just do 179 (transferred in the last eight months) times 2000 euros setup
>> fee alone. It's an important chunk of change in my opinion, and it is in the
>> current LIRs interest that this money keeps flowing in.
Financial reasons aren't the scope of the WG (and neither should nor are
they I believe for RIPE) as far as ensuring the Internet with it's
reliance on IPv4 are concerned. RIPE got bye well before the run on the
final IPv4 addresses began, and I believe even if we stop(ped) hoarders
from abusing the system in order to get around the "one /22 limit", they
will still be able to get around fine. Also, you can't argue both sides
in your favor - either you say there is no problem as there aren't many
hoarders, or you say that the income is essential and shouldn't be
dismissed. Saying both contradicts yourself ... (additionally, I don't
think monthly fees would be noticeably lower even with additional
hoarders coming in)

>> Also, if this policy will be adopted, it is my opinion that it should be
>> enforced on the /22s allocated after the adoption of this policy. Otherwise,
>> from my point of view, it would be a "change of the rules during the game"
>> and it would have retroactive effects - which is not ok.
Oh, so somebody tries to abuse the intent of a policy, and they
shouldn't be subject to possible changes of the system? The price for
the /22's he's getting only doubled, so I believe that's still OK. Bad Luck.

Regards, Garry