[address-policy-wg] Opposing policy 2015-01

All these words about IPv4 "exhaustion" and evil "abusers" is just a screen to reach some goals for some group of people.

I think all sane people understand it perfectly.

We already see some consequences of this proposal even BEFORE its acceptance (as Petr Umelov wrote): request count for IPv4 allocations has grow.

11.07.2015, 21:52, "Vladimir Andreev" <vladimir at quick-soft.net>:
> Current proposal supporters may also need cheap IP's so this hole will not be closed.
>
> It's time to spell out that current proposal never had an aim to reduce IPv4 exhaustion.
>
> 11.07.2015, 21:47, "Petr Umelov" <petr at fast-telecom.net>:
>>  Don't tell then I did not warn :)
>>
>>  When you will come to your senses and will start the multi LIR hole closing during 6 months, IPv4 will be exhausted
>>
>>  11.07.2015, 21:39, "Jan Ingvoldstad" <frettled at gmail.com>:
>>>   On Sat, Jul 11, 2015 at 7:30 PM, Petr Umelov <petr at fast-telecom.net> wrote:
>>>>   Hello, WG.
>>>>
>>>>   I understand you will approve this proposal in any case, you have made a decision in January and should comply with formalities.
>>>>
>>>>   However I see many companies began to open multi LIR accounts and receive additional allocations.
>>>>
>>>>   E.g.
>>>>   netname: NL-PCXCOP-20150707
>>>>   netname: NL-PCXMAD-20150707
>>>>
>>>>   netname: DK-BORNFIBER5-20150709
>>>>   netname: DK-BORNFIBER9-20150709
>>>>
>>>>   netname: ES-RULZ2-20150710
>>>>   netname: ES-RULZ3-20150710
>>>>
>>>>   netname: ES-SUNNY2-20150710
>>>>   netname: ES-SUNNY3-20150710
>>>>
>>>>   Traders don't want to lose their profit and will begin to provide services to help open new accounts for the same company and companies will be do it by themselves.
>>>>
>>>>   Thus IPv4 pool will be exhausted during 1-2 years.
>>>>
>>>>   I understand the RIPE NCC dislike someone makes profit using RIPE's resources but we should not make emotional decisions.
>>>
>>>   Absolutely, and therefore I suggest that since the above appears to be a big problem for you, that you write down a proposal that will handle this particular problem.
>>>
>>>   Most people want to scratch their itch, and if you scratch it by writing a proposal, your itch can, perhaps, be scratched too.
>>>
>>>   But if you don't write that proposal, nothing will happen, and maybe your worst fears will come true, through your own inaction.
>>>
>>>   It's best that those who see a problem, are the ones to attempt addressing it.
>>>   --
>>>   Jan
>>
>>  --
>>  Kind regards,
>>  Petr Umelov
>
> --
> With best regards, Vladimir Andreev
> General director, QuickSoft LLC
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With best regards, Vladimir Andreev
General director, QuickSoft LLC
Tel: +7 903 1750503