[address-policy-wg] [ncc-services-wg] Crimea papers

Hello,

shell we obey the EU and Dutch law? Definitely not.

On 31.07.14 15:17, Turchanyi Geza wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I do not like civil wars, wars or similar events, however, shell we
> punish LIRs because they work in an area of conflict?
> 
> Defnitely not.
> 
> Shall we punish the end users?
> 
> Definitely not.
> 
> Shell we discuss at RIPE lists the political or military conflicts?
> 
> Definitely not.
> 
> I fully agree with Axel Pawlik and Richard Hartmann.
> 
> Thnkx,
> 
> Géza
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 1:04 PM, ksyu at netassist.ua
> <mailto:ksyu at netassist.ua> <ksyu at netassist.ua
> <mailto:ksyu at netassist.ua>> wrote:
> 
>     lets see this article
> 
>     http://eur-lex.europa.eu/__legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=__uriserv:OJ.L_.2014.226.01.__0002.01.ENG
>     <http://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=uriserv:OJ.L_.2014.226.01.0002.01.ENG>
> 
> 
>     29.07.2014 16:45, Richard Hartmann пишет:
> 
>         Dmitriy, all,
> 
> 
>         as has been stated repeatedly, this is not the place for this
>         discussion.
> 
>         The initial question was "will RIPE NCC hand resources to a LIR in
>         Crimea, based on Russian papers" and the clear answer is "if said
>         papers establish the existence of the LIR and substantiate the LIR's
>         claims, yes".
> 
> 
>         I am sure many people hold strong opinions on the topic of
>         Crimea, but
>         neither RIPE NCC nor RIPE community is the place to discuss this
>         topic. Does this, and other, situations suck? Yes. Can RIPE NCC do
>         anything about it? No.
> 
> 
>         As Gert pointed out, what you seem to be arguing for is basically a
>         punishment for any Crimean LIRs for being located in a region of
>         conflict. What would that achieve? About as much as the current
>         discussion.
> 
> 
>         Richard
> 
>         PS: There have been and are other conflict regions within RIPE
>         region;
>         those are not punished for being in the wrong place, either.
> 
>         PPS: You are free to try and submit a PDP and/or bring the topic
>         up at
>         a RIPE meeting, but don't expect consensus.
> 
> 
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