[address-policy-wg] Announcing address resources

On Jan 7, 2014, at 6:21 AM, Thomas Narten <narten at us.ibm.com> wrote:

> What does "use the allocation within the region" really mean?
> 
> If one addresses devices that physically reside outside of the region,
> but also routes to those devices from within the region, does that
> count? This is the key question.

Yes.

> You say the "the fact that some of it may be used outside the region
> does not prevent allocation." suggests that if some of the devices are
> outside of the region, that is OK. But that then does mean that
> requestors should be able to justify space based on a combination of
> customers that reside "inside" and "outside" the region.

Yes.

> My understanding is that in fact ARIN does not count (in
> justifications) addresses that will be used on devices outside of the
> region, which would seem to contradict your statement.
> 
> Is it in fact that justifications can include equipment that will be
> located outside of ARIN's region, or is it actually that all of the
> addresses must be used by customers/equipment within the region?

There must be some customers/equipment in the region, but it does 
not need to be all of them.

> I don't follow this. If a multi-national has customers spread all
> across the world, and uses a single prefix to cover them all, and
> uses that prefix within ARIN's region (e.g., by advertising the
> aggregate from within the region), is that enough to satisfy ARIN's
> requirement that they "route it all in the ARIN region?

Yes.

> I am raising these questions precisely because I have been made aware
> of such a situation and have been asked if I can share light on what
> is supposed to happen in such cases.

Good to know - If you have them contact me or send me the ticket number,
I can fairly quickly find out the disconnect.

Thanks!
/John

John Curran
President and CEO
ARIN