[address-policy-wg] About the /22 allocation limitation

Hi Hans,

El 14/04/2014 13:52, Hans Petter Holen escribió:
> On 11.04.14 13:37, Dpto. Datos Television Costa Blanca wrote:
>
> On 11.04.14 11:19, Dpto. Datos Television Costa Blanca wrote:
>> Isnt unequal right now? Are you saying is equal LIRs with thousands 
>> and thousands of IP address when there are LIRs with only a /22? Is 
>> equal that the LIRs with thousands can make lot of money from LIRs 
>> with only a /22?
> I think this depends of how you define equality.
> Is equality just comparing the number of addresses or IP addresses 
> relative to customers or even pr capita of the market the LIR operates 
> in.
I give you half a point here. You cant ask for IPs for a per capita of 
the market the LIR operates in.
Its unequal in the way a LIR have millions of unused IPs what dont 
return to RIPE just for selling and a new LIR who is growing up and need 
more than the /22 they have.
>
>>
>> Its so hard to prove you need more IPs?
> When I was new in this game I had to supply receipts of equipment to 
> prove I was building a network. That was hard facts. But a customer 
> prognosis based on historical growth or marketing plans was not 
> accepted by the community. So I would say - yes its hard - and we have 
> not been able to come up with a good criteria yet.
Maybe, if all this finish in a proposal, we should discuss how to prove 
you need it.
>
> On 11.04.14 13:37, Dpto. Datos Television Costa Blanca wrote:
>> No its not equals. You have mooooooore game with 1 millions address 
>> than 1 thousand address. 
>
> If the LIR with 1million IP addresses has 4 million customer it has a 
> bigger challenge than the one with 1 thousand addresses if that LIR 
> only has 1000 customers.
Sure its a bigger challenge. But its biggest when you have 1k address 
and 4k customers. You know, concurrence % is better when you have more 
clients.
Your example is not good because you dont set same terms. a LIR with 1M 
address and 1M customers have more game than a LIR with 1k address and 
1k clients.

Kind Regards,

-- 
Daniel Baeza
Centro de Observación de Red
Dpto. Internet y Telefonía
Television Costa Blanca S.L.
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