[address-policy-wg] About the /22 allocation limitation

Hi Daniel,

> First of all, my name is Daniel and Im the Network Administrator of the AS199952
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> Im new to the address policy wg and Im sure you can answer the question.
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> The /22 allocation restriction to new LIRs are only for new LIRs or for all LIRs? We only got a /22 as new LIR, and we cant ask for more IPs, proving we need it or not.
> I know, this is a recursive discussion, but I wonder if old LIRs can ask for more IPs or they are restricted as new LIRs are.

Since the runout (September 2012) every LIR, both existing and new, can get one (and only one) /22.

> For all people who are going to say "Move to IPv6" I already did it. About 75% of my network is IPv6 ready. 100% of our backbone network is IPv6 but, as all of you can see, only 18% of the World ASes are IPv6 ( http://v6asns.ripe.net/v/6?s=_ALL;s=_RIR_APNIC;s=_RIR_AfriNIC;s=_RIR_ARIN;s=_RIR_LACNIC;s=_RIR_RIPE_NCC;s=ES ) and IPv6 wont work for anybody if the rest of the world isnt IPv6 ready.

Great to hear about your IPv6 deployment. And yes: we need to push the rest of the world as well.

> To be honest, I think IPv6 will not be ready before lot of us (new lirs)run out of IPv4 address while old LIRs have thousands and thousands of unused IP address and they sell them for really expensive price. I saw one in the listing service asking for at least 2 digits per IP... 2 digits! for something they got for free in the past.
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> Again, I know, IPv4 is exhausted but this cant be used for making lot and fast money from new LIRs that only have /22 allocation and need more.
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> I wonder if a change proposal of the policy to allow to ask for more IPs, of course proving the use of the ones you already have, and only giving /24's would be accepted by the community or I will get flamed for making the proposal.

No, nobody gets flamed for making proposals here! :)  The reason it is currently not possible to request more is that if that was possible then existing LIRs would use up the remaining addresses in a couple of months (at the most), and after that new LIRs would get 0 IPv4 address instead of the /22 they get today. So please think about the consequences before making that proposal :)

> Please, feel free to discuss about this if you are going to say something usefull.
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> PS: Sorry about my english, if I didnt explained well about something, just tell me. I will not feel offended.

Your English is fine :)  Most of the people on this list aren't native English speakers anyway.

Cheers,
Sander