[address-policy-wg] 2013-06 New Policy Proposal (PA/PI Unification IPv6 Address Space)

Hi,

without actually wanting to drive the direction anywhere, just adding 
something that you might have missed :-)

On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 09:02:21PM +0200, Tore Anderson wrote:
> PI holders currently cannot assign address space to their customers, and
> that's what I understand this proposal to be all about changing, but it
> does it in a way that defines a new "breed" of End User who a) does not
> at all fit the original definition of an End User, while b) does
> completely fit the definition of an Internet Registry. Put it another
> way, the new (1st level) type of End User created by the proposal
> appears to me to be an LIR in all but name.

Well, there are still "just plain" end users of "PI space" out there,
that do not do "LIR things", but just run a (multihomed) network - we
have a couple of these under our sponsoring LIR, and they are quite
happy not having to deal with the RIPE NCC (because they are smaller
german enterprises, not willing to deal with international contracts,
etc.).

The whole thing that started this PA/PI unification project is that the
distinction between "ISP" (=LIR, PA) and "end user" (=not LIR, PI) has
become less and less clear over time, and as such, it became mostly 
confusing to "people out there" not regularily dealing in RIPE policy.


So - based on "some people will want to operate more like an ISP" and
"other people will be happy to number primarily their own network, and 
maybe a server of their neighbour next door", it seemed to make sense 
to keep the distinction of "full LIR" and "address space flowing via a
sponsoring LIR to folks not really doing LIR things" - and those might
not be interested at all in having to deal more with the RIPE NCC.


OTOH, I really should stay out of this discussion now, as it's not my
role to push this any specific way - while I *did* get this started, 
now Elvis is the one driving it, and the community has to decide what 
they (you!) want, while I focus on the chairing thing - guiding the 
discussion and such.

Gert Doering
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