[address-policy-wg] 2013-03 New Draft Document and Impact Analysis Published (No Need - Post-Depletion Reality Adjustment and Cleanup)

I tried to limit posting in the 2013-03 threads to cut down on overall
noise, but even after a night's sleep, I feel these points have to be
addressed, even if arguably off topic.


On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 8:29 PM, Sylvain Vallerot
<sylvain.vallerot at opdop.net> wrote:

> On 24/09/2013 20:05, Jan Ingvoldstad wrote:
>>
>> On what possible grounds do you assume that our "+1" supports are EASY?
>
> Because it's so short to write and not develop  :-)

I agree with Jan that this implies +1 are fire and forget.

Contrary to this sentiment, voicing either support or disagreement
requires thought. And being subscribed to this list and actively
reading the proposals should be enough to prove a certain amount of
interest and involvement.


> -1 requires long developments and a lot of repetition, as you may
>   have noticed.

If you feel a need for a lot of repetition, this may be a sign of
others simply disagreeing with the points you raise.

After a certain point, more repetitions may or may not be useful in
the general discourse.


> But it is the game, OK, support is easier to formulate. This comes
> from the system of someone writing a proposal and this is a "positive"
> move, so going the counterway requires more writing (and may might seem
> counter-productive) while going the same direction obviously does not
> require to re-write the "pro" arguments that are already in the proposal.

Writing "positive" implies, once again, an inherent advantage of one
side over the other.

A change needs to gather support whereas the status quo wins by
default. Thus, if anything, a proposal is in a weaker position.


> This is where I regret by the way, the assymetry between supporting and
> opposing arguments in the rationale.

I am sure that you would be able to get your arguments listed if you
asked Tore and/or the editors.

Not that this would imply any more agreement with those points; this
proposal still has overwhelming support.


> OK I must admit this is was bit rude, so please accept my apologies.
> But this was not intedned as personal offense, I appreciate when I am
> on the other side an just need to say +1  :-)

Much appreciated!


Richard