[address-policy-wg] New Policy Proposal (PI - PA Transfer)

Exactly.
I also think that current (disallowing) transfer practice for block /22 
(and larger) - is an artificial problem.
I think there is no problem to allow transfer PI->PA for blocks /22 (and 
larger) right now. And after that we can continue discussing about 
blocks less then /22. It seems that question about transfering blocks 
less then /22 is not easy, but there is no question for blocks /22 (and 
large).

Delaying this for discussing question about blocks less then /22 - we 
making situation more and more hard each day.
Agiotage around IPv4 is growing each day.
So, let's make some cool down of situation - let's allow transfer /22 
(and larger) right now and leave the question of less then /22 for 
discussion.
It will improve situation right now and give us some time to discuss 
about blocks less then /22


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ksyu at netassist.ua писал 2013-10-29 20:47:
> Hi to everybody
> 
> I don't understand what is the problem to return the possibility to
> turn PI to PA? If it was somedays = that means that is possible.
> What troubles RIPE are expecting to see - if they are still oscillate
> with the solution?
> 
> IPv6 unfortunately is not using as It was expecting to be in use.
> Good if 5% of providers are using IPv6.
> 
> Now almost all are still using IPv4.
> 
> The principles in this policy generates a lot of troubles. Some people
> are starting to steal or use somebodies networks illegally. Don't
> close your eyes. You know how they can do this.
> 
> What should all other companies do if they can't get their own
> addresses? They will ask for rent. But the price now is too high. And
> will not go down if something will not changes.
> 
> As I see the solution to soften the migration from v4 to v6 - this
> solution is a flexible POLICY.
> 
> Let's return the possibility to transfer PI to PA and ease the life of
> a lot of small companies which need their own addresses.
> 
> What to do with PI space that is smaller than the minimum allocation 
> size?
> I see excellent way - Make a minimum /22 and just wait for a little
> bit - when addresses will end finally. Than every block can be turned
> into the PA.
> 
> Best regards, Kseniya
> 
> 
> 
> 21.10.2013 22:35, Carsten Schiefner пишет:
>> Gert,
>> 
>> you still seem to be a bit stressed out - no relaxing weekend?! ;-)
>> 
>> On 21.10.2013 20:40, Gert Doering wrote:
>>> But I think we have found another volunteer for the minimum 
>>> allocation
>>> size obstacle regarding IPv4 PA->PI conversion. Also related to IPv4 
>>> PI,
>>> but differently...
>> 
>> This should read "regarding IPv4 PI->PA conversion" - as it concerns 
>> converting "ASSINGED PI" IPv4 space of LIRs into "ALLOCATED PA" space 
>> for the respective LIR.
>> 
>> The (main) question here is: what to do with PI space that is smaller 
>> than the minimum allocation size.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> -C.
>>