[address-policy-wg] 2013-06 New Policy Proposal (PA/PI Unification IPv6 Address Space)

Hi Sacha,

On 9/30/13 9:27 PM, Sascha Luck wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 05:22:52PM +0200, Elvis Velea wrote:
>> There are only two paths, from the RIPE NCC to LIR and from the RIPE
>> NCC to End user (we may decide to change the name) via the Sponsoring
>> LIR.
>
> I would be in favour of converting all resources into "independent
> resources" and the path going, in all cases:

hum, that will open a lot of can of worms, what do we do if every 
current LIR decides to become a customer of a Sponsoring LIR?

>
> RIR -> Sponsoring LIR -> End User.
> Advantages:
> - End Users can transfer "their" resources to a different Sponsoring LIR

ok...

>
> - Specialist LIRs can be established that have the necessary skills to
> manage resources properly, End Users wouldn't have to worry about
> resource management and it may result in reducing the work-load on the
> RIR..

we already have those entities in a few countries. I know at least of a 
few entities that mostly do IR management in various countries in the 
region.. Nobody is stopping the Specialists to just open a registry and 
start offering services. We are already doing that and we have just 
registered a few weeks ago :-)

>
> Disadvantages:
>
> - This opens the door to the establishment of "N(ational)IRs", something
> which some states have expressed an interest in.

I would not see this a disadvantage.

>
> - There is a probability of de-aggregation of resources as they move
> between Sponsoring LIRs - could possibly be mitigated by making the
> minimum assignments big enough.

this would probably be a big disadvantage.

>
> - RIR membership will likely decline - this could also be an advantage.
>

Not really, we will have less LIRs paying a lot more.

> rgds,
> Sascha Luck

cheers,
elvis

>
> PS: in such a scenario I would even consider supporting 2012-08 ;)

PS: me too :-) but this scenario is out of scope of this policy proposal 
as the policy proposal does not cover IPv4 :-)