[address-policy-wg] 2013-03 New Policy Proposal (No Need - Post-Depletion Reality Adjustment and Cleanup)

* McTim

>> The key word here is *public*. The *public* resource is gone.
> 
> not entirely, or have I missed that announcement?.

Hi McTim,

I don't count space covered by the "last /8" policy, if that's what
you're alluding to here. This is because my proposal does not change it,
and also because allocations made from this space are not sized
according to the need principle.

The "last /8" policy's "a single /22 per LIR, no more, no less" mechanic
makes it impossible for a single LIR to allocate excessively from the
space covered by the policy.

This was not the case prior to the "last /8" policy - if it wasn't for
the need principle, an LIR would have been able to repeatedly go to the
NCC and receive space that it could in turn delegate further in an
wasteful manner. With the "last /8" policy in effect, however, this
safety mechanism is no longer necessary - because no matter how
excessively an LIR makes delegations to its end users, it can only
receive a single /22 from the space covered by the "last /8" policy, ever.

> I think this proposal actually lengthens the lifetime of v4, in that
> if an LIR makes a significant investment in v4 resources, they will be
> more likely to seek the longest ROI possible, thus delaying their v6
> adoption.

I don't understand this argument, could you explain? The amount of IPv4
addresses in existence would remain the same after 2013-03 passes, so it
does not remove the depletion state we're in.

> I also think that if adopted, this proposal would preclude an
> inter-RIR transfer market in that the "needs test" is required in the
> other regions, and that would mean that the RIPE region policies would
> not be "compatible" as called for in the other regions transfer
> policies.
> 
> In other words, does 2013-03 preclude 2012-02 (if adopted) from being effective?

Yes and no - it depends on the policy in effect in the other region
space is being transferred to or from. I'm not intimately familiar with
those, but I *believe* that ARIN would be incompatible, APNIC
compatible, and that LACNIC and AfriNIC does not allow for inter-region
transfers at all (so 2013-03 would not make any difference for those).

Tore