[address-policy-wg] saving v4 space for new entrants

On 2013-02-06 15:32, Erik Bais wrote:
>> Debating how we might make the dregs of v4 space last a little bit longer does seem to me to be like rearranging the deckchairs on the Titanic after the iceberg hit.
> Having a deckchair or not, might become a topic if you see there is no room left on the lifeboats and you are looking for a floatation device ... presuming that they deckchairs are made from wood and will float ..
> Or if you want to do the sit and wait game, while everyone else is in panic and jumps.
>
> Anyway .. back to the topic ..
>
> If we are actually 'care about allowing new entrants', there might be another topic to look into which isn't covered in the current policy for the final /8.
>
> And that is the fact that it is allowed to merge LIR's that have been assigned an allocation from the final /8.
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> Currently there are already 6 LIR's to my knowledge that have been merged that now have 2 or more 185.x.y.z /22's ...
> I've been hearing several discussions in the grapevines from parties that are already low on IP space to use that loop-hole to setup new LIR's, merge them and repeat.
>
> To me, I think that we should cut off this route asap, otherwise we might as well hand out the final /8 as if any other /8 .. and be done with it ...

There will be allways such possibility, even if you say that LIRs that 
are closed shorter than i.e. 5 years after creation have to return 
addresses - this might be still cheaper
to pay 1,8keuro/year than to buy addresses on market.

2keuro + 1.8euro/4 (just one quarter) = 2450 euro for 1024 IP = 2.4 euro 
per IP.
Market price varies from 20$ to 10$ (depending on prefix size, smaller - 
more expansive).

So maybe 5 years blocking period is a good idea as this will be allways 
money case ?

Regards,
Marcin



>
> Btw.. anyone in need of a deckchair ? Just bring some whiskey and cigars .. let's sit down and watch the show unfold.
>
> Regards,
> Erik Bais
>