[address-policy-wg] [policy-announce] 2013-03 New Draft Document and Impact Analysis Published (No Need - Post-Depletion Reality Adjustment and Clean up)

On 8/6/13 10:20 , Hans Petter Holen wrote:
>
> On Sunday, August 4, 2013, David Farmer wrote:
>
>     On 8/4/13 09:48 , Tore Anderson wrote:
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>         * David Farmer
>
>             I believe the primary definition of fairness the RIR
>             communities have
>             been using is, "only those that have *verified operational
>             need* get
>             Internet number resources".
>
>
>         Do you have a link or reference? (Tried Google, no hits.)
>
>
>     Try goal #1 in section #1 of RFC 2050.
>     See https://tools.ietf.org/html/__rfc2050#section-1
>     <https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2050#section-1>
>
>
> since this is going to be replaced we should probably make sure we are
> in line with:
>
>
>     And in slightly different words, try goal #1 in section #2 of RFC
>     2050-bis.
>     See
>     http://tools.ietf.org/html/__draft-housley-rfc2050bis-02#__section-2
>     <http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-housley-rfc2050bis-02#section-2>
>
>
> another question is if rfc2050 is "binding" and "limiting" for the RIRs and
> if draft-housley is going to be it may have go go trough some RIR
> processes too?

I never said RFC 2050 is binding on the RIR's.  I've been saying it 
articulates fairness and why operational need is important.  RIPE and 
any other RIRs can and have ignored many parts of it, and are fee to 
continue to do so.

However, RFC 2050 and the upcoming 2050-bis are the only common 
statement of goals or principles other than ICP-2 that there is for the 
Internet Registry System and the RIRs as a whole.  If we ignore those 
goals and principles, without careful consideration, bad things are 
likely to happen.

If you are suggesting it would be a good thing for there to be a common 
set of goals and/or principles for all the RIRs that have gone through 
the RIR's policy processes or maybe the global policy process, that may 
not be a bad idea.

Note: Within the ARIN Region there is such a discussion going one see 
ARIN-2013-4, right now the scope is intended to be within the ARIN 
region only.

https://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/2013_4.html

I believe that operational need is one of the few useful concept of 
fairness we have from a Internet number resources policy perspective.
Impartiality and community consensus supporting policy being the only 
others I can think of as useful concepts of fairness.



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