[address-policy-wg] Seen this?: (Was: IP Broker for -1.-1.-1.-1)

Hi Gert,

On 18. 10. 2012, at 15:48, Gert Doering <gert at space.net> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 03:45:01PM +0200, Ond??ej Surý wrote:
>>> Transferring address blocks to those in need and receiving monetary 
>>> compensation in exchange is *not* against RIPE policies.
>>> 
>>> To the contrary, it is expected that the transfers are registered with
>>> the RIPE NCC so people know who currently "owns"(*) an address block.
>> 
>> The email/proposition talks about "leases", and not transfers.  
> 
> Transfers can be temporary.

I see nothing about temporary transfers in 5.5 of IPv5 policy.  The leases would best fit under "sub-allocations", but that's just for downstream network operators (and I read that as BGP downstreams, not a random entity on the net).

Also the transfers has to be approved by RIPE NCC, so you cannot ensure it's "temporary", because you can be denied the transfer-back.  Correct me if I read the policy in a wrong way.

>> And if I remember correctly you should return unused blocks and not 
>> lease them, don't you?
> 
> You are certainly welcome to return unsed blocks to the RIPE NCC, but
> you do not *have* to - the policies for allocations do not require that
> (and there is no provision for the NCC to forcibly take them back either),
> that's only for assignments.


True, that was just my thinking about being a good "netizen", but it's not covered in the policy.

Anyway I still think the leases are not in the line with the current policy.

O.
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