[address-policy-wg] [Ticket#2012110601002595] Status of /24 PI IPv4 from last /8

On 07/11/2012 12:13, Gert Doering wrote:
> Actually, looking at traffic graphs is misleading at best.  These show
> whether big telcos that have sat on their huge IPv6 allocations for
> a long time finally get around to IPv6-enable their customers (or 
> continue stalling), but do not really say anything about the *usability*
> of IPv6 for Joe Average User.

Usability is one thing: in general where native ipv6 is provided, it mostly
works fine and most problems aren't related to the access layer.  But as
you correctly point out, it's simply not available for most end users.

> Since the context of this discussion is "WE MUST HAVE IPv4 PI!!!", this

Please don't be dismissive about this discussion.  There is a serious issue
here relating to availability of a resource which provides significant
benefit to many people and organisations in the RIPE service region.

> statement might need some adjustment to "there is no IPv4 PI, can we do
> something else?", like "can we use IPv6 PI plus double-IPv4-PA?"  or 
> "can we use IPv6 PI plus our ISP's friendly NAT64 translator?"...
> 
> These seem much more relevant questions to me than "can we look around
> in the decks below the water line for additional deck chairs?".

It's less of a deck-chair discussion and more of a discussion about
life-boat seats - the relevant point being that there is a small quantity
of seats left and the crew/operators have bagged the lot for themselves,
leaving the passengers stranded on a sinking ship.

Now one way or another that ship will sink and we all know it, but in the
interim it is unreasonable to expect that end users who want PI are going
to be happy about the situation.

Nick