[address-policy-wg] global coordination (was: 2012-01)

On Apr 15, 2012, at 4:03 PM, Milton L Mueller wrote:

> Three in a row: three consecutive, mutually reinforcing indications of bad faith.
> 
> John Curran: "eek! I can't participate in policy development." Well, sure you can at the IGF, and besides it isn't really "policy development" of the sort you are pretending to be afraid of. Everyone knows that IGF is a non-binding discussion forum and its purpose, if it has a purpose at all, is to do precisely the kind of thing I am proposing - namely, bring multiple stakeholders together in a safe, non-negotiating atmosphere to see where cooperation can move forward in other forums. Are you saying that it is ok for NRO people to do this among themselves, but not out in the open in an inclusive way? Please reconsider.

Milton -

  I fully recognize that the IGF forum allows open participation, 
  but in the case of ARIN it's very clear that registry staff are
  not to participate in policy development.  I assure you that a
  workshop for "finding out what kind of a proposal(s) could be 
  on the table, debating their merits and demerits, and agreeing 
  to take what is agreeable into those Fora in a coordinated way"
  is definitely number resource policy development.

> Let's lay this out even clearer for all to see: 
> 
> Any time someone expresses dissatisfaction with current RIR approaches to address policy, out comes the broken record: "make a policy proposal and put it before the RIRs." And as soon as someone starts to do that, and asks you to get serious about cooperating with them, you come up with a dozen lame excuses to tell them, as Randy colorfully put it, to "foad"

  Do not misrepresent my response as contrary to any workshop you
  wish to have... it is not.  My request is simply that you please, 
  please try to involve some of folks who are actually affected by 
  these  policies in your discussion, in whatever forum you choose.  
  It is those affected by these policies that should be involved 
  in their formation, and that is the users of Internet number 
  resources globally.

> The workshop will happen. There will be a global proposal. 
  
  That's wonderful, and as I noted on multiple occasions, if you do  
  need any assistance with the global policy process, I’d recommend 
  contacting one of the Address Support Organization (ASO) Advisory 
  Council members or Chair for assistance.
   
Thanks!
/John

John Curran
President and CEO
ARIN