[address-policy-wg] Proposal 2011-02 moving to Last Call

On Thu, 29 Sep 2011, Michel Py wrote:

> I hate to sound brutal, but why should I believe that you will find the 
> Holy Grail that everyone else has been searching for over the last 15 
> years? I heard it all, I wrote part of it. There is NO solution to make 
> renumbering easy and there is NO solution nearly as good as PI for 
> multihoming.

I am well aware of this.

> Stop the vaporware. What you want does not exist. Unlike the IETF, ARIN

I never said it did.

> I'm tired of hearing "we need to". I have been hearing this for 15 
> years, enough of this. Oh, BTW, I tried too. You don't have anything; 
> when you do, deliver it and come back to us.

We still need to in the long term. IPv6 PI, ie keeping state for all 
end-users in all DFZ routers on the Internet, does not scale with billions 
of routes.

So yes, there is no solution right now, that doesn't mean IPv6 PI is any 
kind of long term solution. We know it's bad, we still use it because 
there is no better way right now. That doesn't mean we should give up.

It's again tragedy of the commons. For the individual user, PI is always 
the easiest way out. For humanity/Internet as a whole in the long term, 
not so much.

But let's get IPv6 implemented, a few hundred thousand more routes doesn't 
really matter, as long as they don't turn into many millions.

-- 
Mikael Abrahamsson    email: swmike at swm.pp.se