[address-policy-wg] Legal counsel on 2008-08 (Initial Certification Policy in the RIPE NCC Service Region)

At least for me, part of my worries is this "awareness thing" and the
use of terms - both within the framework of the discussion and in the
tools, UIs, plus documentation:

	ROA: Route Origin Authorization.

What is the message, that this sends out to the various lobbying and
other "pressure groups"? In particular, when the RIPE NCC is offering
the creation of ROAs as a hosted service by way of the LIR Portal....

Folks (like me) who have seen things and threats happening in the past,
in real life, without *any* regard to "legislation" being there or not,
or being seen as applicable, tend to be just a tad more paranoid than some
others ;-)

Wilfried

boggits wrote:

> On 6 May 2011 08:43, Sander Steffann <sander at steffann.nl> wrote:
> 
>>Of course laws can change, but the advice above may address some of the concerns raised about the RPKI infrastructure.
>>
> 
> 
> This is indeed true but misses the point that laws tend to exist
> either when there is an actual 'thing' to make laws about or are
> framed in such a way to allow the courts the latitude to include 'new
> things' in the same piece of legislation. Since RPKI is not currently
> a 'thing' but rather a 'new thing' I would be wary of relying on legal
> opinion that says:
> 
> "There is no specific Dutch legislation that can be used to order the
> deregistration of Internet number resources or change the registration
> details of Internet number resources. Nor is there any legislation
> that applies to the revocation of certificates over Internet number
> resources."
> 
> What you are looking for is legislation (as pointed out by Malcom)
> that can be used to restrict/control access to the internet which
> appears to exist at least at a European level
> 
> J