[address-policy-wg] getting second IPv6 PA as a LIR

Hi,

to come back to one specific question here:

On Tue, May 03, 2011 at 07:47:07AM +0200, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote:
> > Though, 50 EUR/year for PIv6 for each one of the ISPs customer is merely 
> > 4 EUR/month per customer. And they get their own /48 PIv6 prefix! ;)
> 
> Is this really true? IPv6 PI at 50EUR/year?

Right now, the price for an "independent numbering resource" is 
50 EUR / year per piece - that's IPv4 PI assignments, IPv6 PI assignments
and AS numbers.

This price is decided upon by the RIPE general meeting (AGM), where the
actual paying members decide how they want the fee structure to be.

The address policy working group can influence this decision by giving
input to the RIPE NCC / NCC board as in "the community thinks that this
price is too low / too high / should be dependent on the size / ...",
but we don't get to actually *decide* this - money is decided by paying
members.


Now, something else to keep in mind regarding PI space: you need someone
who is actually willing to route that space for you - which usually isn't
done on "mass market end user" type contracts (at least, over here in
.DE, none of the big DSL or cable ISPs would route someone else's PI for
them), so you need a "business ISP contract", which adds indeed cost that
"the polluter" has to bear.

This discussion is drifting back and forth between "I'm a hosting provider,
I run a business providing IP connectivity to the content my customers
want to be visible in the Internet, and I need space for that" and 
"if millions of end users all get PI into the DFZ, routers will explode".  

Which both is correct - but somewhat unrelated, as this is talking about
different types of "internet entities" that come in vastly different
numbers.

Gert Doering
        -- APWG chair
-- 
did you enable IPv6 on something today...?

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