[address-policy-wg] getting second IPv6 PA as a LIR

Hay,


Am 03.05.2011 um 15:37 schrieb <poty at iiat.ru> <poty at iiat.ru>:

>>> And why wouldn't the Internet work with 600,000 prefixes in the DFZ?
>> 
>> Now all of a sudden for instance Cisco 7600 3CXL isn't enough to old a
> full table (at around 750k).
>> 
>> Also, IPv6 uses twice the TCAM resources as IPv4...
> 
> so, basically what you are saying is that you know that your routers
> need an upgrade in 5 years and you 
> don't want to pay for an upgrade or you can't figure out a business plan
> which covers the costs for that?
> But you are telling small ISPs/NCOs/"hobbyusers"/whatever THEY don't get
> their business plan right
> if they don't can afford paying $$$ for PI space or rather would prefer
> to pay other bills with the
> money? WTF?!
> 
> ------
> No, the problem that the small ISPs you are speaking about will have to
> spend that money to swallow such routing table. And it is not $2000,
> "slightly" more...

Small companies start with small routers, PC based Linux Quagga Boxes, or Routerboards,
or Juniper J-Series or whatever - not really much costs here (see other replies).

If they become bigger, they need to take into account that bigger boxes cost more money,
or they decide to stay small.

In any way, PI space is about END-USERS, not about ISPs so much anyways.
So if you're a small ISP, with this thinking in mind that you don't want more
prefixes in the DFZ, you are basically saying that you don't want any more highlevel customers by
raising the entry level for such endusers who require this kind of service (full BGP redundancy)?
You rather serve homeusers for cheap money which never get you enough revenue?
You don't want new startups competing with your company?

...or what?
What's the point about all you guys who want to prevent new people to be in the DFZ?
Is there any reasonable point which isn't selfish?
I just don't get it for some years now.

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Sascha Lenz [SLZ-RIPE]
Senior System- & Network Architect