[address-policy-wg] getting second IPv6 PA as a LIR

On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 16:20, Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike at swm.pp.se> wrote:

> I am not stupid, I of course know RIPE is never going to charge 2kEUR per
> year for PI even if I want them to.

Wouldn't it make sense to argue for goals you have a chance of
achieving instead of dragging out a fringe discussion about things
that will not happen anyway?


> Also, I am going to save this email and bring it out in 5 years and let's
> see how many 50EUR/year PIs there are in the world then. I guess that's the
> only way to find out.

Fine by me. To put my money where my mouth is and as "hundreds of
thousands" implies 200,001 or more, how about this bet:

If, on the 1st of May, 2016, there are 200,001 or more IPv6 PI routes
(1/5th of which need to be from RIPE space) in the global routing
table, I will owe you one good bottle of rum. If this condition is not
met, you owe me a good bottle of rum.
"Good" means all rums in the blend need to be at least 8 years old and
it must not be from any company manufacturing industrial paint
solvents like Bacardi or Havanna Club.

I maintain a separate calendar for bets so this would not get lost.


> I am not heated, I am resigned about nobody here caring about the common
> good.

Your definition of the common good seems to diverge from the one most
of the other people posting in this thread.

Disagreement is fine, implying others are careless and ignorant, not so much.


> Seems shared cost is "someone elses problem". As long as "my hobby
> project" is important to me, I should get to pollute without paying.

Again, € 50 / year * PI prefix is not free.


> And at 50EUR per year, heck, I'd PI my home connection in a blink. Why
> wouldn't anyone?

Mainly because you do not have a need and will not get it routed on a
normal home connection. Same as for almost all other home, or
business, connections.


Richard

PS: Arguably, "hundreds of thousands" means 300,001 or more, but I am
confident 200,001 will not be reached so the point is moot.