[address-policy-wg] getting second IPv6 PA as a LIR

On 05/03/2011 12:40 PM, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote:
> On Tue, 3 May 2011, Marcin Kuczera wrote:
> 
>> And you know what, I suppose that this already happens and RIPE can't
>> stop it. If new policy will try to block it, people will find our
>> legal workaround. People are smarter than any institution.
> 
> That's why I want (v4|v6) PI to cost 2000EUR, not 50EUR.
> 

This doesn't making sense at all. Or then each (!!) PA assigment also
must cost 2000EUR (or more, depending on assigment size, as PA
assignments are generally larger than PI assignments).

If you only increase cost of PI, "smart people" just starts using their
PA block divided into several parts... As mentioned by Marcin Kuczera
today, this is happening ALREADY... just look into your BGP table, his
scenario isn't fiction (just is hapening on their 1st IPv6 PA)...

Any policy doesn't block organisation from becoming LIR, obtain maybe in
some case "cheaper" PA and then split it into several blocks (and resell
it). And nothing will block deaggregated advertisments in the BGP table
in effect, as any policy doesn't imply real filtering...

Global table will grow anyway, independently of the policy. Restrictions
doesn't make sense here, on paper you can wrote anything and each
limitation can be circumvented, some people are very creative...

Daniel