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[address-policy-wg] status of 2011-02
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Erik Bais
erik at bais.name
Fri Dec 16 11:48:30 CET 2011
Hi Remco, > Alright I'll bite. I don't think "rough consensus" has been achieved in this case and I think we can do the community a huge favor if the proposal is taken back to the drawing board. As said before, I'm sure that once we agree on what problem > we're going to fix, it will be a lot easier to get a policy text in place that will meet consensus. The problem with the policy text is that the only textual change in the policy is: the removal of the multi-homed requirement for PI v6. The intention of the policy was (/ is) to bring the requirements for PI v4 and v6 more in line, without changing anything else that you still require or are not allowed to do when you request PI for v6. The change in the policy will allow people who don't WANT to become a LIR (or can't for legal reasons) or are not planning for multi-homing yet, the opportunity to start implementing v6 on independent resources if required. Currently the way around the current PI v6 multi-home requirement is: A) sign-up as a LIR and nobody asks you if you are planning to multi-home your v6 PA /32. Or B) don't implement v6 yet. (As if there is time to wait some more on delaying your v6 implementation.) Not everybody want to (or can) become a LIR for their own reasons, while they still have very valid points of requiring PI space on all other aspects and I speak from my own experience with some customers, most of the PI customers should be banned from anything that has a console attached to it as most of them have absolutely no clue how to manage a BGP setup. To sum things up, there is an escape that is already being used for those that can afford it and don't want to deal with the hostmasters questions on multi-homing requirements. (They buy their way into the community and we somehow we don't care anymore) That means that this is not a technical discussion imho, but a financial decision if we allow v6 without multi-homing. Current status as I see it: (Expensive) LIR membership = v6 without multihoming Or cheap PI = jump through hoops and required to implement multi-homing. This policy change will level the requirements to be similar (on the topic of multi-homing) as for v4 PI and for new LIR's. Regards, Erik Bais
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