[address-policy-wg] the cost of PI space

I would say the counter argument to this is that the cost of routing
reduces over time, obviously not in line with say Moore's law but to
look at the prices of a router that can handle a full ipv4 table
compared to 5 years ago, the cost difference is drastically lower.


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-----Original Message-----
From: address-policy-wg-admin at ripe.net
[mailto:address-policy-wg-admin at ripe.net] On Behalf Of Immo 'FaUl'
Wehrenberg
Sent: 15 April 2011 15:22
To: address-policy-wg at ripe.net
Subject: Re: [address-policy-wg] the cost of PI space

Hallo Mikael,
du schrobst:

> On Fri, 15 Apr 2011, Immo 'FaUl' Wehrenberg wrote:
> 
> > I still don't see that. It is a cost to run the NCC, surely. And
indeed 
> > this cost increases with the number of ressources in use. Without
being 
> > into finances of Ripe NCC i'd assume that the anual 50 euros per 
> > ressource should cover the costs generated by the asignment. CMIIW! 
> For me I don't care where the money goes. A DFZ routing slot is
costing 
> money, it's just not costing you money, it's costing "everybody"
money, 
> and the cost is that we need routers with bigger FIB sizes the more
PIs 
> there are. This has nothing to do with the cost of running RIPE NCC or
any 
> other RIR.

I am aware of that. Thats the reason oposed to the proposal originally
introduced IMHO. However, how would increasing the cost in that case
help? Would your saved ripe membership fees compensate that costs? Or
would that minority of non-profit users that cannot afford higher PI
prices and thus are not able to operate further make any difference?

I think for most PI end-users, the cost of pi space is negligable even
if it is as high or higher then xs lir fees compared to the costs 
generated by the provider (including setup and maintainence of the
customer network part). I presume, most user would not even notice
that costs, thus it would not lead to a significantly less amount of
routes in the DFZ. On the other hand, it would make life more difficult
for that few non-profit organizations. 

After all, i don't really see your point here.

Immo
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